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    Why is site management so sloooow? I deal with several providers and ony Westhost makes site maintenance a chore due to very slow response. I know it's fixable - so please do it!
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    WH is aware of the problem and actually some progress has been made. There is a long way to go but the process invloves some restructering of things that are takeing some time. Haven't really heard much from WH direct on ultimate timeline but I would bet it the true improvements will come sometime this summer. There has been other lengthy descussions on this in the past. Believe me we all look forward to the day when Site Manger runs with ease.

    I will say one thing it has forced me to learn and use other methods of maintaining sites and I have to say these alternatives offer some great advantages. I use SSH a lot more and it really is not as scary as I once thought. Working right now on move a site from one account to anouther and I can move an entire database in the blink of an eye. No zipping, downloading, uploading and unzipping. Just poof and it is a done deal!

    For most apps I don't use the Site Manager but install myself. Found that in the long run it give me more latitude in where and how I want it installed. About the only thing I have to use SM for is the base programs like Perl, Php ect.

    All that being said there are going to be clients that just do not have the time or ability to learn these other methods and for WH to be competive in the market they need a fast running Site Manger. That in itself well make it happen.
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    Wow - I just used Site Manager, and it was the fastest I've seen it! The last time I used it, the change from screen to screen, from, say, email/ftp management to site applications, took about a minute 15 seconds - this morning, the same thing took only about 15 seconds. I could not believe it.

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    I have been seening a gradual increase in most accounts I work with. Now that you mention it I just worked on one account this morning and it did seem to fly by.
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    It still seems very slow for me.

    I hope they work on it soon.

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    rivetcode, It could also have to do with your local setup. At home in KC on my main computer I don't have too much trouble although it still is not as fast as I would like it to be. Right now I am out of town on the east coast working on a slow lap top and a hotel connection and I can see a slow down.
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    wildjoker is right, the speed of your computer plays a big role in the speed of Site Manager right now. The reason why is there is a lot of client side Java Script that takes place and if you're on a slower computer it will slow things down quite a bit.

    The next release of Site Manager we will make sure it's not as client side intensive as well as do many other things to speed it up and make it easier to use.
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    Site Manager is so slow to make it almost unuseable - and this is on a pretty zippy dsl connection. (Using FireFox 1.5.0.7 if that matters)

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    I think what Mr Russell was saying is that it isn't a question of connection speed, but the speed of the computer that needs to render the page. I use different computers here and the speed of Site Manager is very different between the two (one is old, one is new).

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    I guess that the speed of our server also comes into this. I tried running this benchmark (from WebHostingTalk forum)

    Download: UnixBench v4.1.0 - WHT Variant

    # gunzip -dvc unixbench-4.1.0-wht.tar.gz | tar xvf -
    # cd unixbench-4.1.0-wht
    # make
    # ./Run

    Code:
    ==============================================================
    BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 4.1-wht)
    System -- Linux mydomain.com 2.4.9-e.68 #1 Thu Jan 19 18:43:55 EST 2006 i686 unk                                                                                                                     nown
    /dev/sda8            222461964 130405492  80573616  62% /
    
    Start Benchmark Run: Mon Oct 23 11:56:33 MDT 2006
    
    
    End Benchmark Run: Mon Oct 23 12:11:03 MDT 2006
    
    
    
                         INDEX VALUES
    TEST                                        BASELINE     RESULT      INDEX
    
    Dhrystone 2 using register variables        376783.7  3106168.9       82.4
    Double-Precision Whetstone                      83.1      728.2       87.6
    Execl Throughput                               188.3      906.4       48.1
    File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks         2672.0    29074.0      108.8
    File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks           1077.0     9034.0       83.9
    File Read 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks        15382.0   191275.0      124.3
    Pipe Throughput                             111814.6   416084.1       37.2
    Pipe-based Context Switching                 15448.6   117871.5       76.3
    Process Creation                               569.3      857.1       15.1
    Shell Scripts (8 concurrent)                    44.8      133.0       29.7
    System Call Overhead                        114433.5   455596.3       39.8
                                                                     =========
         FINAL SCORE                                                      56.8
    which compares with 'jalalski's results (03-07-2005)
    Code:
    ==============================================================
    BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 4.1-wht)
    System -- Linux mydomain.com 2.4.9-e.40 #1 Thu Apr 8 17:03:56 EDT 2004 i686 unknown
    /dev/sda7 228163888 37719828 178853968 18% /
    
    Start Benchmark Run: Mon Mar 7 11:14:32 MST 2005
    
    End Benchmark Run: Mon Mar 7 11:30:26 MST 2005
    
                         INDEX VALUES
    TEST                                        BASELINE     RESULT      INDEX
    
    Dhrystone 2 using register variables        376783.7  2890020.2       76.7
    Double-Precision Whetstone                      83.1      638.7       76.9
    Execl Throughput                               188.3      750.0       39.8
    File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks         2672.0    43519.0      162.9
    File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks           1077.0    10776.0      100.1
    File Read 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks        15382.0   252598.0      164.2
    Pipe Throughput                             111814.6   368697.2       33.0
    Pipe-based Context Switching                 15448.6    99909.6       64.7
    Process Creation                               569.3      714.6       12.6
    Shell Scripts (8 concurrent)                    44.8      125.0       27.9
    System Call Overhead                        114433.5   354324.2       31.0
                                                                     =========
    FINAL SCORE                                                           55.2
    ==============================================================
    Other hosts are scoring almost 300, while a few are scoring as low as 7.5. It appears as though upgrading the kernel to 2.6 will almost double the scoring. Roll on that upgrade!
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