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    Default Hitting the design/programming wall

    First of all I want to preface by saying that I do enjoy web and graphic design, web "programming" and technology in general (I can't get enough of the latest tech news!) I'm pretty good a doing a little bit of everything but often because of time constraints and other things I feel I hit a "wall" technology and design wise.

    I often find myself getting in a "rut" design wise and will design around a similar style.


    I also hit a wall when it comes to educating myself on web technologies. I try to keep up with the lastest on a very consistant basis but for all practical purposes I have a hard time getting past "the first few chapters" either in books or "metaphorically". For example I'm familiar with XML and the benefits but I rarely have the time to educate myself on the deeper stuff and the deeper stuff is usually the more beneficial.


    Let's just say I can learn enough to download a script and customize it to my needs but I can't remember the last time I've totally written something like javascript, php, asp from "scratch". I really admire the people who can


    Who else feels this way? Does your head start swimming past a certain point?

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    yep, all the time. the only way to get through it is to remember the goal, and if I don't have one, or if it isn't worth it, I usually forget about it, which happens alot.

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    I like to go to different design websites. Not to steal their ideas, but to look at sites that are new and fresh, just to expand my creativity a bit. My current favorite is www.coolhomepages.com
    The zebra's stripes are lacking hues,
    They don't compare to you-know-whose.
    Orange, black and white is what to wear!
    It's haute couture for those who dare.
    It's camouflage, and stylish too!
    Yes, tigers look the best, it's true!
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    Tyger's idea is a great one and I agree it is not to steal a layout but to give yourself some new ideas. There are also some great sites out there that offer graphics for websites. Just do a search in your favorite search engine for "Web Graphics" and see what comes up.

    I want to stress... Do Not Steal The Template of Graphics!.... use them to get your creative juices going.
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    With regards to webmastering and resources for getting yourself out of dead-ends and dark corners might I suggest you visit www.webmasterworld.com

    With regards to design, I like to visit the Communication Arts (www.commarts.com) website and view the Interactive Design Award winners. They have a variety of highlighted websites listed with some very nice design concepts.
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    I took a look at www.webmasterworld.com . Interesting stuff. I especially liked the discussion regarding letting NN4 and all the other antiquated browsers die and forcing people to update. I've put together pages that work with IE5+ and NN6+ and possibly some others that claim (appCodeName) to have Mozilla engines like Konquerer (although with that brand at least z-index appears to be broken), but that's only because I can test them. I don't have NN4 and no luck in tracking one down on the net. All the links divert you to the new NN7.1 . So even the manafacturers are against you making your pages backwards compatible - otherwise why make it so difficult to do? Anyone know where I can download unsupported versions like NN4?

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    I think I may have a copy somewhere on my computer but would have to look... If I do maybe I can get it to you. Don't want to get in trouble with copyright law and stuff but in this case don't think they would arrest me..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJP
    So even the manafacturers are against you making your pages backwards compatible - otherwise why make it so difficult to do? Anyone know where I can download unsupported versions like NN4?
    Did you check the browser archive over at http://browsers.evolt.org/? I believe if you look under the Navigator Section, you'll find what you're looking for.

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    Yeah, the discussion about NN4 gets lively though I think the majority of us have decided to drop it. While it constitutes about 3% of my visitors the headaches involved in keeping my website compatible outweigh the benefits. So I opted to have my sites degrade gracefully whenever an NN4 user arrives. The user won't see it as I had intended but they will be able to navigate and get the information their looking for.
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    I did find a copy of NN4.51 in my stuff.
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