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virtualvoice
07-12-2006, 11:47 AM
Hello:

We are having trouble getting a 'licensed' Registrar to respond to reports of abuse.

On July 2, 2006 we notified the Registrar Gandi.net and Gandi Sarl of the illegal activities of a domain and website for which Gandi.net and Gandi Sarl are the REGISTRARS.

We notified Gandi.net and Gandi Sarl that a criminal spammer had stolen and hijacked the identity of one of the domains/websites owned by us. That he was forging or "Spoofing" our domain name in his spam headers. That this criminal forger and spammer had probably sent out thousands (probably millions) of unsolicited emails with the forged headers of our domain name in an attempt to bypass various spam filters.

We ALSO provided Gandi.net and Gandi Sarl full and complete information regarding the illegal hijacking and forging of one of our domain names, and spamming by the domain 'paymentwound(dot)info' In addition, we provided Gandi.net information pointing to the fact that it appeared as if the domain may paossibly be registered with FALSE ownership and contact information!

This information included the original 'email header' and 'email body' data, clearly showing the forged header, and the recipient website 'paymentwound(dot)info'

Gandi.net replied to us, and said that although they had received the information that we had provided, that they would not act on it unless we completed their 'online contact form.'! (This despite the fact that we had originally filed the information through their 'online contact form') The email was signed by "Ryan."

On July 4, 2006 we once again provided all the information to Gandi.net and Gandi Sarl, and requested they take immediate steps to end the criminal forging of our domain header.

The galling, and most distasteful part of all this to us, is that this website appears to be selling drugs and pharmaceutical products of extremely questionable origin.

Our website is legitimate business, providing wholesale supplies of fanny pack holsters, waist pack holsters, fanny pistol packs, and concealed weapon fanny packs http://www.holsterheaven.com We are disgusted with the manner that this Registrar has handled this matter as it reflects on our business name.


We reminded Gandi.net and Gandi Sarl that it is illegal and fraudulent under both Federal Law as well as ICANN regulations to provide false, incorrect, or misleading ownership and contact information when registering a domain, or contracting for hosting services!

Believe it or not!

....and quite frankly we were in disbelief

.......but once again, Gandi.net replied to us, by repeating the same disingenuous nonsense about they how they would not act on the information unless we completed their 'online contact form.'!

The big problem was that their "so-called" 'online report form' did not work! And they knew it!!

After filling-in the information, their "Validate" button on their complaint form was broken and did NOT work ...It simply generated an error message:

"" Warning: mysql_pconnect(): Unknown MySQL Server Host 'sgbd.gandi.net' (1) in /usr/local/www/rip/ripsubmit on line 104
Could not connect ""

We were then forced to email Gandi.net directly, and for the 'third time," we once again provided all the information to Gandi.net and Gandi Sarl, and requested they take immediate steps to end the criminal forging of our domain header.

As of this post July 12, 2006, with Gandi.net and Gandi Sarl's FULL assistance and protection the offending domain and website is still in business!

We would now wish to file a complaint with ICANN, and would appreciate anyone pointing us in the right direction.

Thanks,

virtualvoice
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http://www.holsterheaven.com
Fanny Pack Holsters

jalal
07-13-2006, 06:22 AM
I've worked with Gandi for over 10 years and I've never had a problem with them, or their forms for that matter. Anyway, if you want to go ahead, you can go to the ICANN web site and follow the links for reporting abuse. It will mean filling in a form, which may give you problems but it's worth a try.

Also, if a spammer is forging headers, that is nothing to do with Gandi. All spammers forge headers. That's the way it works. Gandi can do nothing about it. In fact, you are so way off the mark on so many things here that I'm not surprised Gandi is ignoring you... :)

Why does this message smell funny? Dunno... possibly a long winded way of getting your domain link on the forums. And what do you think the connection is between Westhost (an american company) and gandi (a french company).

virtualvoice
07-14-2006, 10:54 AM
I've worked with Gandi for over 10 years and I've never had a problem with them, or their forms for that matter. Anyway, if you want to go ahead, you can go to the ICANN web site and follow the links for reporting abuse. It will mean filling in a form, which may give you problems but it's worth a try.

Also, if a spammer is forging headers, that is nothing to do with Gandi. All spammers forge headers. That's the way it works. Gandi can do nothing about it. In fact, you are so way off the mark on so many things here that I'm not surprised Gandi is ignoring you... :)

Why does this message smell funny? Dunno... possibly a long winded way of getting your domain link on the forums. And what do you think the connection is between Westhost (an american company) and gandi (a french company).


Three hard-copy notifications to gandi.net and as of today, 3-weeks later the forger and spammer paymentwound(dot)info is still in business .....victimizing American citizens amongst others!!

Why go after the Registrar?

Simple!

If you know anything about the web, you know that the 'websites' that these criminals are trying to drive the traffic towards are mostly a part of the criminal conspiracy.

You should also be aware of the fact that because these are criminal enterprises ....the domain and/or its owners/registrants more than likely provided fake or fraudulent information to the Registrar when registering the domain.

Further, the simple fact is that it is illegal and fraudulent under both Federal Law as well as ICANN regulations to provide false, incorrect, or misleading ownership and contact information when registering a domain, or contracting for hosting services!

Therefore, it IS very much is the Registrar and the hosting companies business.

We are not way off the mark! Perhaps you have learned something about a Registrars' responsibilities.

... I am not a lawyer, but I am sure most of the Forum readers will confirm this.

This was not the first time this happened to us. We have dealt with other criminals before, and have received excellent cooperation.

Every other Regisrar and hosting service that we have dealt with except for Gandi, were cooperative and acted responsibly. The illegal actors have always been closed down.

Gandi is a 'Licensed Registrar," and as such they have Rules, Regulations, and frankly, they also have 'ethical responsibilities' plain-and-simple!

This was just the first time that a Registrar has not act responsibly.

.....Perhaps the 'head-butt' is actually a National past-time for the French, because cooperation certainly is not.

This is not 'American' vs 'French' issue.

This is about our business being victimized by a domain and website which Gandi is allowing to continue, despite it's being provided hard-copy evidence of the wrongdoing!

It's about Gandi not following it's Formal Licensing Requirements as a Domain Registrar!

Our post was probably long winded, and we accept this point. In the same vein, we suggest you think about recalibrating your "smell test" skills, they need improvement :)

As a result of our post we have received a lot of excellent and helpful input, which will be helpful to us streamlining our future defensive security applications.

With regards to your allegation about the (single, one, uno) reference to our website in our three page post, that's kinda lame. -- Our website is legitimate business, providing wholesale supplies of fanny pack holsters, waist pack holsters, fanny pistol packs, and concealed weapon fanny packs www.holsterheaven.com (http://www.holsterheaven.com) (But thanks for the opportunity to repond on it anyway)


virtualvoice
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http://www.holsterheaven.com (http://www.holsterheaven.com)
Fanny Pack Holsters

jalal
07-14-2006, 12:04 PM
...snip... As a result of our post we have received a lot of excellent and helpful input, which will be helpful to us streamlining our future defensive security applications. ...snip...

I'm glad to hear, I wish you the best of luck.

:)