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2fangs
10-31-2003, 06:40 PM
The page for the Undergraduate Commerce society on campus has been up for a couple of months. I need some feedback as to the entire site in general. Any comments, criticisms, feedback, is greatly appericated. Address is www.ucsonline.ca

wildjokerdesign
10-31-2003, 09:42 PM
Looks pretty good on ucsonline clean and proffesional. Looks like you need to add some Keyword and such for the search engins. I just did a quick browse through. Pages loaded pretty fast for me but then I am on DSL. I notice you are using iframes.... (I was browsing with IE) Have you covered Netscape users?

Those are just my quick thoughts.
Shawn

2fangs
10-31-2003, 10:02 PM
yeah, it seems to work fine with netscape 7. I've yet to test it with other versions though.

SJP
11-01-2003, 01:25 AM
I use iframe on my site and I've tested it with NN6, NN7, IE5-6, Opera 7, and Konqueror 3. My only critisism is that you are not using tables how they were intended to be used. Since you're using iframes that puts constraints right there on which browsers are compatible and so you might as well explore other more preferable methods like using DIV blocks with float and clear since they all support css. You also have no DOCTYPE declaration, but I don't know how important that is since having one or not doesn't appear to make any difference. I think it's more idealogical than anything else and gives HTML checkers more to ***** at in case you use attributes that are not defined by the standard you are claiming to adhere to.

SJP

torrin
11-01-2003, 07:59 PM
Like wildjoker says this is a nice clean interface. Loads fast on my DSL connection. Good work!

My only problem is this. My browser is 800x600 in size. I don't understand why I need to scroll left and right to read your site. Your page should adjust to the users configuration, not the other way around.

After looking at the source, this looks like the offending line.


<div align="center" style="width: 901; height: 409">

As far as I can tell, the page isn't 901 pixels wide. When I scroll left and right, I see white space on both sides of the content.

Other than that, very nice work. It's a nice uniform page that works in galeon (http://galeon.sourceforge.net).

SJP
11-01-2003, 11:04 PM
Yesterday I didn't think giving a !DOCTYPE had any noticeable effect, but then I ran accross this page: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnie60/html/cssenhancements.asp. It explains that IE6 and above (?) uses the !DOCTYPE to determine if it should operate in standards compliant mode and that not specifying one can affect how the content is rendered. I've read similar comments regarding Netscape and in fact when I point Netscape 7 to your site it states that it is operating in quirks mode. I imagine this is akin to writing a program that relies on undocumented features or bypasses the operating system to access hardware directly. It was this practice that prevented Microsoft and others (remember the Amiga?) from making sweeping changes to their OS for the longest less they risked breaking a whole bunch of programs. It also means browsers have to be unbelievably bloated to be backwards compatible and at some point in the future browser manafacturers may decide to stick it to all the people who don't follow the rules like the aforementioned OS manafacturers eventually did. Food for thought.

SJP