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epicheirimatias
09-11-2009, 09:40 PM
Reading this page...
http://www.westhost.com/30to40comparison.html

What exactly is VPS like environment, and what exactly will we be loosing from current VPS plan?

Could anyone list VPS features we loose?

wildjokerdesign
09-12-2009, 08:35 AM
In the past we have had the ability to compile and add our own programs manually via SSh. We have always had control over the httpd.conf file. It was VPS like because we had Root like access to our accounts. In WH 4.0 we won't have as much latitude to control our accounts enviroment. It'll be shared with others so WH will control it. That being said we may have some control via the new cPanel over things that we used to deal with via SSH. This post is better at showing what we lose. http://forums.westhost.com/showthread.php?t=13529

epicheirimatias
09-13-2009, 06:14 AM
neither of these links provide much information...

But thanks that now I know httpd.conf freedom is gone with WH4.

LWC
11-09-2009, 01:29 AM
I wonder how do your Dedicated Servers, that I suppose would remain in 4.0, fit into all this. Will you still consider them as VPS solutions? (http://forums.westhost.com/showthread.php?t=13921)

wildjokerdesign
11-09-2009, 07:20 AM
Doesn't WestHost still retain the Root user privileges with Dedicated Servers now? I am pretty sure that they have mentioned before that even dedicated servers will be moved to the new system so it won't be a VPS environment but a normal shared environment. The thing is with a Dedicated Server I think you would still have the ability to install your own apps and such if you needed to. They just would not be unique for each account. In other words if you installed say FFMPEG it would be for all the accounts and not just a single account. Changing the httpd.conf would affect all your accounts not just one.

cmichaelis
11-09-2009, 08:09 AM
Hi there,

That is correct, even dedicated servers won't have direct root access due to being a shared solution. If you do require full root access, I would point you to one of our sister brands - VPS.net. This is a true VPS whereas our 4.0 offering is a shared solution. The vast majority of people in our 3.0 platform will be just fine in 4.0, but for those select few that truly need root access, VPS.net will be a good solution.

Thanks,
--Chris


Doesn't WestHost still retain the Root user privileges with Dedicated Servers now? I am pretty sure that they have mentioned before that even dedicated servers will be moved to the new system so it won't be a VPS environment but a normal shared environment. The thing is with a Dedicated Server I think you would still have the ability to install your own apps and such if you needed to. They just would not be unique for each account. In other words if you installed say FFMPEG it would be for all the accounts and not just a single account. Changing the httpd.conf would affect all your accounts not just one.

LWC
11-09-2009, 01:43 PM
So what will be your new definition of "Dedicated Servers"?

cmichaelis
11-09-2009, 02:01 PM
Hi there,

A dedicated server is a standalone physical server that's not shared with anyone else - it's all yours to use as you see fit. You get access to create as many (or as few) accounts as you want on it, and can do as you like with them. It's the same hosting platform as our shared servers, it's just dedicated hardware for your use only. A related concept is our "semi-dedicated" plan, which is again the same hosting platform, but with guaranteed resources. Semi-dedicated is a good step in between regular shared hosting and a dedicated server. All of the servers are "shared hosting" in the technical sense; but what differs is whether the hardware is shared amongst others or just "shared" amongst yourself.

I hope that helps!

Cheers,
--Chris


So what will be your new definition of "Dedicated Servers"?

LWC
11-09-2009, 04:54 PM
So what's the difference between dedicated servers (hundreds of dollars a month) and dedicated IPs ($1 a month)? The latter are also supposed to grant you less sharing of resources (you can control things that suddenly become just yours).

wildjokerdesign
11-09-2009, 07:52 PM
A dedicated IP does not grant less sharing of resources. It just dedicates that IP to your account only. Without it you share and IP with others. There are some features that need a dedicated IP.

ErickJensen
11-19-2009, 02:29 PM
In WH 3.0 each VPS had their own Apache, MySql, etc. processes running, i.e., not shared with everyone else on the physical server? Is it my understanding, that this is no longer the case?

WestHost - CReeves
11-19-2009, 05:37 PM
ErickJensen,

Thank you for your question. Yes, that is accurate. WH 4.0 will no longer be in the current VPS-like environment that we are using. Part of this reason is that the technology used by WH 3.0 is at end of life. We have encouraged clients that still need that functionality to consider VPS.NET otherwise we will move everyone to the WH 4.0 platform in the coming months as we approach the migration. Despite the differences WH 4.0 does come with several new upgrades and site apps including cPanel. For most clients this will be a welcomed change although we understand there are some that may require the VPS technology.