We have a number of sites with westhost and we have become seriously concerned about how the configuration of the Virtual Private Server with shared ip addresses may be causing google to index pages with the wrong base url.
For example: when you do a site index search in the google search bar by entering: site:internationalkids.ca you will notice that the description has been taken from another site with the same ip hosted with westhost. Also another site's title and description are indexed with the internationalkids.ca url.
This obviously affects the indexing and page ranking of the site tremendously. Many of the sites we manage have the same issue.
One site we manage has a fixed IP address and is not affected.
We are still waiting to hear what and when Westhost Support plans to get this error resolved. I encourage you to check your own sites to see if this is plaguing your indexing and page ranking.
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04-18-2006, 07:04 PM #1Junior Member
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Westhost Shared IP error upsets Google Indexing
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04-18-2006, 08:56 PM #2
That does not make sense. Google optains the information they use by going to your site and reading what is on the page (to put it simply). Google does not index your site useing the IP but by useing the domain name. How do you know that the description you are seeing is from anouther site on the same IP? Is it one of yours. Perhaps a second domain on the same account as the one in question? There are advantages to haveing a static IP but don't think they include SE indexing. It will be interesting to hear what WH replies with. Keep us updated.
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04-19-2006, 05:00 PM #3Moderator
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This is a bug within the VPS software-- specifically the component that manages HTTP requests to accounts with a shared IP address. This bug was only recently discovered as a result of some changes Google has made to the way they index pages. The result is the problem that you have described. And yes-- accounts with dedicated IP addresses are not effected as there is no "middle man" between Google and the web server.
Our developers have already produced a patch for this problem, but unfortunately it requires some significant structural changes before the patch can be applied. We are already working hard at making those changes, but in the mean time are trying to find a way to provide an alternative solution for people with this problem.
I have probably created more questions then I have answered, but we wanted to be sure we acknowledged this problem so you weren't left in the dark. As soon as we have more specific details on this issue we'll be sure to update this thread to let you know.
Jonny Fillmore
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04-19-2006, 05:46 PM #4
Wow! Prove me wrong...
I really didn't think there would be anything the at the server level that would affect Google.
Sorry ramakhalsa about my missleading assumtions.Shawn
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04-21-2006, 05:01 PM #5Moderator
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wildjokerdesigns:
The issue is a rather tricky one, and stems from the fact that Google will frequently now keep the HTTP connection open using keep-alives when indexing another host with the same shared IP address. When these two hosts happen to be different accounts then a bug in the component of the VPS software that handles requests to name based accounts handles these requests incorrectly.
ramakhalsa:
I imagine that this has given you a bit of trouble already. Could you please submit a ticket at http://members.westhost.com/contactus.html and request to have it escalated to me so I can help you with this problem?
Jonny Fillmore
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WestHost, Inc.
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05-11-2006, 07:14 PM #6Junior Member
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When this is fixed will all accounts, dedciated and not, automatically be
Originally Posted by WestHost - JFillmore
upgraded, or will we need to request it?
We're not having the problem, we've only been here 2 weeks..
Tom
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05-12-2006, 07:38 PM #7Junior Member
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Thanks! If the problem persists, I will contact her. I'm happy to know it is a bug issue, and not a new way to hijack traffic.I am sure it is part of the problem that is discussed here and not the puppeteers site that your users are being redirected to.
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05-15-2006, 02:28 AM #8Junior Member
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Just to confirm I had the same problem, Google results showing wrong title for wrong URL.
This is easily fixed by a dedicated IP address.
Its wise to have a dedicated IP address not just for search engines but also to prevent your server from being added to Email Spam lists.Just trying make a few pennies (cents)
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04-30-2006, 12:32 PM #9Junior Member
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I have seen this same issue with at least one of my sites. I thought the issue was with Google when in fact it was with the VPS software. I hope this is resolved quickly as it has become a definite issue for me!
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04-30-2006, 04:03 PM #10
I would make sure and submit a ticket and refrence this post or the fact that Jonny Filmore is aware of the problem so it gets routed to him. I may be they need to examine accounts that this happens to in order to get it ultimately resolved.
Shawn
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