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    Thanks, Jalal!

    The /spamassassin --lint 'created' a new (=overwrote: but I have them to re-upload) user.prefs file.

    I could not get the -d option to work.

    Will certainly look at the BigEvil .cf files. I can have as many .cf s there as I want, can I?

    What I really want is to have SA actually delete (after some testing) marked SPAM right off the server.

    I can't see any way to do that.

    I use Mailsmith 2 on Mac OS 10.3.3 with SpamSieve - it's extraordinarily good at detecting SPAM but I really don't want to see it - getting on for 200 messages a day.

    Will certainly look at your site for more weapons. Your help very much appreciated. What a responsive and friendly BBS this is :-)

    Take care...
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    Quote Originally Posted by msealey
    I could not get the -d option to work.
    That should be a 'big D' not a 'little d'.

    Quote Originally Posted by msealey
    Will certainly look at the BigEvil .cf files. I can have as many .cf s there as I want, can I?
    Yes. But the files have to live in /etc/mail/spamassassin (they won't work in ~/.spamassassin) so that means that they are site wide, not per user.

    Quote Originally Posted by msealey
    What I really want is to have SA actually delete (after some testing) marked SPAM right off the server.
    You need to get procmail to deliver it to the bit bucket /dev/null. Procmail passes it to SpamAssassin, which then examines it and then assigns a score which it writes in the header. Procmail can then examine the returned header and decide what to do with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by msealey
    Will certainly look at your site for more weapons. Your help very much appreciated. What a responsive and friendly BBS this is :-)

    Take care...
    We try to please...

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    Jalal,

    Yes the two .cf files you guys have recommended + local.cf are all in:

    /etc/mail/spamassassin

    I ran /spamassassin -D --lint

    and got (hoping it isn't too antisocial to paste it here):

    debug: Score set 0 chosen.
    debug: ignore: using a test message to lint rules
    debug: using "/usr/local/perl/share/spamassassin" for default rules dir
    debug: using "/etc/mail/spamassassin" for site rules dir
    debug: using "/home/markworks/.spamassassin" for user state dir
    debug: using "/home/markworks/.spamassassin/user_prefs" for user prefs file
    debug: using "/home/markworks/.spamassassin" for user state dir
    debug: bayes: no dbs present, cannot scan: /home/markworks/.spamassassin/bayes_toks
    debug: Score set 1 chosen.
    debug: Initialising learner
    debug: debug: Only 0 spam(s) in Bayes DB < 200
    debug: bayes: 24395 untie-ing
    debug: bayes: 24395 untie-ing db_toks
    debug: is Net:NS::Resolver available? yes
    debug: trying (3) slashdot.org...
    debug: looking up MX for 'slashdot.org'
    debug: MX for 'slashdot.org' exists? 1
    debug: MX lookup of slashdot.org succeeded => Dns available (set dns_available to hardcode)
    debug: is DNS available? 1
    debug: running header regexp tests; score so far=0
    debug: running body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=1.7
    debug: running raw-body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=1.7
    debug: running uri tests; score so far=1.7
    debug: uri tests: Done uriRE
    debug: running full-text regexp tests; score so far=1.7
    debug: Razor2 is not available
    debug: running in taint mode? no
    debug: Current PATH is: /bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:.:/usr/local/apache/bin
    debug: DCC is not available: dccproc not found
    debug: Pyzor is not available: pyzor not found
    debug: all '*To' addrs:
    debug: all '*From' addrs: ignore@compiling.spamassassin.taint.org
    debug: running meta tests; score so far=1.8
    debug: is spam? score=1.8 required=4.5 tests=DATE_MISSING,MISSING_HEADERS,NO_REAL_NAME
    debug: bayes: 24395 untie-ing

    Is this what I would expect?

    One concern is that on installing the Net:NS module I did have to exit a loop which kept asking me to select 48, 16, 12 (I think) URLs. "[RETURN]" (ie the default) never let me get any further. So I tried a [1] (I think) and only got back into the same loop. I can't remember how I got past it. But I guess I did.

    Do you think I have a good installation - and am set to move on to look at Procmail now? TIA again, Jalal :-)
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    Congratulations, Net:NS is working properly

    As for that loop thing, I believe that is part of the CPAN configuration: it asks you for your favourite download mirrors. You need not worry about that.

    Your installation "looks good". You even have Bayesian filtering working properly, and that's great. So, yeah, start delving into the magical world of Procmail
    Fayez Zaheer

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    Quote Originally Posted by FZ
    Congratulations, Net:NS is working properly

    As for that loop thing, I believe that is part of the CPAN configuration: it asks you for your favourite download mirrors. You need not worry about that.

    Your installation "looks good". You even have Bayesian filtering working properly, and that's great. So, yeah, start delving into the magical world of Procmail
    Wonderful. Thanks. ProcMail here I come. Your help, both of you, greatly appreciated ;-)
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    No problem
    Fayez Zaheer

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    Always feels good to help someone defeat the forces of darkness (aka spammers).


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    Quote Originally Posted by jalal
    Always feels good to help someone defeat the forces of darkness (aka spammers).

    Fayez and Jalal,

    'Helping' is one thing. Replying to almost every message of mine within hours - sometimes minutes - is another. And with clear, helpful and effective information is just plain marvelous :-)

    I mentioned you to WH t/supp. when I called earlier. Thanks again, guys.

    BTW It looks as though my SA has started 'learning' faster. All the best to each of you!
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    What do you mean "almost every message"?!

    Glad that we were able to help you out. I've said it before, but I love to do it not only because it's just plain cool to do, but because it helps me learn (and remember) in the process too (and gives me an excuse to stay away from my university work, gosh I hate studying)
    Fayez Zaheer

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    Hello Everyone,

    It sounds like you guys have this figured out. Please let us know if there is anything we can help with. Thanks again for helping each other out here.
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